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This is my first real Stihl build, I've done a couple of Stihl clones and I thought it was time to try a real one out. I got this off ebay and I'm sure I paid to much, like is often the case when you buy your saws there. This is what I'm starting with, pics from ebay.
 

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A week or so ago I did a muffler mod for it because I was board and didn't feel like cleaning the saw up, the part I hate most. I posted this in the muffler mod thread but I'll put it here also to keep everything together.
 

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As it stand now, I've taken it a part and cleaned everything up and vacuum tested it, bad seal killed it. I removed the scored cylinder and cleaned it up, it had a lot of transfer in it but cleaned up well enough to use. It came with a 44mm Mahle cylinder and I also have a nice 44mm Stihl cylinder, I'm not sure which one I'm going to use but I'm leaning towards the Stihl one. Pics are after cleaning except the piston.
 

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Do you have a goal for timing numbers?

I cut out some plastic in my air filter (the part that divides the upper from the lower part), it's probably some sort of spit back guard. I also replaced the flocking with nylon mesh.

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Do you have a goal for timing numbers?

I cut out some plastic in my air filter (the part that divides the upper from the lower part), it's probably some sort of spit back guard. I also replaced the flocking with nylon mesh.

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Not sure on the timing numbers yet but probably something like EX 96 , TR 24-26 opening the EX side first and IN 78.

Filter looks great, I might go with a velocity stack but if I use the mesh one I'll open it up and see what I can do about the divider.
 
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If you plan on test running the aftermarket cylinder, start by making the exhaust port as low as you feel safe doing, then run it, then run it again @ 96. Stock they are only good for 8" wood in my opinion, and need more torque. I haven't run one ported with that high of exhaust, so I'm not 100% sure what the outcome will be. I think mine is around 99-102, and goes through 16" wood well. I wish I would have made it lower, but that's a lot of machining already.
 
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If you plan on test running the aftermarket cylinder, start by making the exhaust port as low as you feel safe doing, then run it, then run it again @ 96. Stock they are only good for 8" wood in my opinion, and need more torque. I haven't run one ported with that high of exhaust, so I'm not 100% sure what the outcome will be. I think mine is around 99-102, and goes through 16" wood well.
I figured I'd start with just removing the little squish band, that should put it around 96 and see how it does.
 

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The $21 AM cylinder showed up today, the casting and ports look good, upper transfers are angled toward the intake like they should. I'll try the numbers above out on this one first.
 

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Been busy this week but I did manage to cut .055 from the band of the AM cylinder tonight.
 

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This is my current numbers for my 026, 24 inch bar 3/8 full comp was running skip before and no issues with it neither , I also tested with a 18 inch and .325 chain and it was Rowdy, these saws like their rpm I've found and it doesn't usually see much more then 20 inch soft wood anything bigger I'll grab the husky 162se or the ported 038 mag

Ex 98 atdc
Transfers 120 atdc
Intake 74 btdc
24 deg bd
 

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Here's the dumb tests of tests 😂

That reminds me of the test that I put my 372xt through with my generous MM on. It did sorta ok with full comp but was borderline right with full skip. For now mine will wear the 28”er, BUT SOMEDAY…
 

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That reminds me of the test that I put my 372xt through with my generous MM on. It did sorta ok with full comp but was borderline right with full skip. For now mine will wear the 28”er, BUT SOMEDAY…
I wouldn't ever run the 026 with a 32, video was for curiosity purposes, which I in think it would pull that chain, oiler won't keep up to a bar that size, av mounts maxed out it is definitely a if you want to destroy your saw go for it lol have some interchangeability things to try out now for the oiler and some stiffer av mounts. OP depends what bar you are wanting to run I can keep you updated on how thus swap goes in coming days when I can get to it
 

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I got the piston cut flat today, just picking away at it when I've got time. I ended up using a Meteor piston instead of the one that came with the cylinder because I felt that it was to thin on top to cut.
 

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I cut a little more out of the squish band and finished the ports up, as soon as my seals come in I'll get it together and see how it runs.
 

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I cut a little more out of the squish band and finished the ports up, as soon as my seals come in I'll get it together and see how it runs.
Is your squish with sealant or a base gasket? See how it runs, I'm using stock domed piston and a tad tighter squish, but the lower transfers I ran mine almost to the base of the cylinder and found bigger gains by opening them up a bit longer in mine. This ported 026 is getting shipped down south and I just picked up another stock one to port going to try some other little things to it this time around
 

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Is your squish with sealant or a base gasket? See how it runs, I'm using stock domed piston and a tad tighter squish, but the lower transfers I ran mine almost to the base of the cylinder and found bigger gains by opening them up a bit longer in mine. This ported 026 is getting shipped down south and I just picked up another stock one to port going to try some other little things to it this time around
Squish is without a base gasket. I'm not sure yet what I'm going to do with the lowers, I might take some JB Weld and fill in the lip to smooth the flow or drop them down a little and smooth it out.
 

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I decided to take the lip off the lowers and smooth them out.
 

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